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Post by Foteini » Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:56 pm

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Re: Page 16

Post by yoda » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:41 pm

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It's a logic puzzle. Fill in the blank spaces the the keys.

The dots indicate whether the characters are correct (in terms of the answer), but are not indicative of position themselves.

The answer has six spaces, so there can only be six characters in it. That means only six characters across all of the characters in the clue are correct.

You should be able to start eliminating incorrect ones by logical inference.

For a big clue on this, the last word only has one character that's correct, and the position of that character is also correct. Since the first word in the set has five correct characters, it can be assumed that most (if not all) of the characters in the last word that are not in the first word are not correct and can be eliminated.
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Post by yoda » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:42 pm

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Even bigger clue: since the first character of the answer is filled in for you, that lets you do a lot of logical inference based on the previously suggested logic.
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Post by Foteini » Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:47 am

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If I understand correct, the first two letters of key 14 and key 15 are the first four letters of the word we are looking?
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Post by yoda » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:34 am

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You do not understand correctly. The placement of the dots is meaningless - only the fact that they exist matters.

• means the word contains a character that is correct AND is in the right place
○ means the word contains a character that is correct

•○ means that the word contains two characters that are correct and ONE of them is in the right place. It doesn't tell you which position is correct.
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Re: Page 16

Post by yoda » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:37 am

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To demonstrate, the last word provided is this:
notify •

That means that one of the characters is both correct and in the correct place

Since the answer spaces are:
n_____

You can know that the correct character is n. That means that none of the other characters are correct.

If it was instead:
notify •○

Then you would know that n was correct and in the right place, and that one of the other five characters was also correct but we wouldn't know which one. We know that n is correct and in the right place because it is provided for us as an additional hint.
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Re: Page 16

Post by Foteini » Thu Mar 30, 2017 12:40 pm

I just don't get this one...
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Re: Page 16

Post by Lupo001 » Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:24 pm

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It's difficult to explain in a different way than yoda did already but I'll try. You have one letter of the answer and the keys and clues are telling you about letters in the clue words which exist in the answer word. The solid dots indicate a correct letter in a correct position, but not which position those letters are in. The hollow dots are correct letters in incorrect positions, but again don't tell you which letter or where it is. You have to figure that out by logical deduction. notify has 1 right letter in the right position. The answer word has an n already filled in. So that's your one given answer, work back from there.
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Re: Page 16

Post by tiffin » Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:58 am

I ignored the dots
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your best bet is to focus on the words you wrote in and ignore the others.
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Re: Page 16

Post by miguelmateosg » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:49 am

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The last word has one letter in the right position, which is the first letter written in the answer ... so the rest of the letters in the fifth word cannot be used and can be eliminated from the other words ... if you continue with such logical deductions, you will find the answer.
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